72 years . Baptised as an infant. Catholic ancestors go back to Goa. Urban hermit. Discoverer of The Rational Premise and VC2 rational and irrational. Break for trads.Discovered late in life that with LG 16 visible we get the New Theology and with LG 16 invisible we return to the Scholastic theology on EENS etc.
March 17. St. Patrick. Baptised at St. Patrick's Cathedral. Studied at St. Patrick's School,Graduated from St. Patrick's College, Karachi. Irish missionaries!
Eldest son of Luke and Maggie Andrades.Completed semesters in theology , with exams and credit points, at the National Catholic Institute of Theology, Karachi.
Studied Philosophy at the University Pontificia Regina Apostoloum, Rome. Final semester left. Also attended corses in Theology and Latin.
Seminarian at the Pontificial Maria Mater Ecclesia seminary ( 2002) of the Legion of Christ and the English Beda Pontifical College ( seminary) Rome ( 2023).
Holder of the All Pakistan Newspaper Society (APNS) Best Reporter of the Year Award presented at an event for journalists, in Karachi, by Benazir Bhutto.
SEDEVACANTISM BASED UPON VATICAN COUNCIL II IRRATIONAL IS NOW OBSOLETE. THE COUNCIL CAN BE INTERPRETED RATIONALLY AND THE CONCUSION IS ECCLESIOCENTRIC AND TRADITIONAL.
Catholic lay man in Rome. Discoverer of Feeneyism versus Cushingism, the Rational Interpretation of Vatican Council II, a breakthrough for the present Catholic Church.The sedevacantists reject the pope because of Vatican Council II irrational. When the Council is rational it supports Tradition. There is no reason for them to reject the Council or the pope. Even the SSPX can now accept Vatican Council II , rational, and meet the demand that they accept the Council. The Council is in harmony with Tradition. So they can ask for canonical recognition. They can also demand that Pope Leo XIV interpret Vatican Council II rationally, since this is ethical and that he also accept Tradition, as did Pope Leo XIII. The main line Catholic Church must now be traditional since the Creeds, Councils and Catechisms can only be interpreted rationally and the conclusion is traditional.
PROGRESSIVISTS AND TRADITIONALISTS TODAY USE IRRATIONAL CUSHINGISM TO INTERPRET THE CREEDS, COUNCILS AND CATECHISMS: UNDERSTANDING LIONEL ANDRADES
13.08.2026
PROGRESSIVISTS AND TRADITIONALISTS TODAY USE IRRATIONAL CUSHINGISM TO INTERPRET THE CREEDS, COUNCILS AND CATECHISMS: UNDERSTANDING LIONEL ANDRADES
VISIBLE-INVISIBLE DISTINCTION
To understand Lionel Andrades you must make the invisible-visible distinction, you must be aware of it when reading Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church.
You must understand in general that the blue orthodox passages in Vatican Council II are not contradicted by the red hypothetical passages. So the blue conservative passages are aligned with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, the Athanasius Creed with no exceptions mentioned in Vatican Council II etc.
Once this is clear, invisible cases of CCC 847-848 (invincible ignorance etc) do not contradict CCC 845-846 ( outside the Church no salvation).
CCC 1257 does not contradict itself when it states that the Church knows of no means to eternal beatitude other than the baptism of water and also says ‘God is not limited to the Sacraments’. …More
AI ON GOOGLE ON LIONEL ANDRADES’ APOLOGETICS : HOTTEST THING IN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH
13.08.2026
AI ON GOOGLE ON LIONEL ANDRADES’ APOLOGETICS : HOTTEST THING IN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH
· Surprisingly, Andrades also heavily criticizes strict traditionalists and sedevacantists who reject Vatican II.
The Accusation: He claims traditionalists commit the exact same logical error as modernists.
Question for AI on Google :
Do you have a timeline on Lionel Andrades- with reference to Vatican Council II rational and irrational, the Catechism of the Catholic Church, Feeneyite and Cushingite, the baptism of desire irrational and rational and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus with an without exceptions in Vatican Council II ?
Lionel Andrades is a contemporary Catholic lay blogger in Rome who published the blog Eucharist and Mission. He is known for a very specific, singular theological thesis: that Vatican Council II, the Catechism, and the dogma Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus (EENS) have been misinterpreted due to a logical error. He divides modern Catholic theology into "rational"…More
AI on Google : Archbishop of Milan asked to clarify the Catholic Faith for migrants.
12.08.2026
AI on Google : Archbishop of Milan asked to clarify the Catholic Faith for migrants.
AI on Google comments on reports and commentaries of Lionel Andrades posted on ‘X’ and Gloria TV.
30.04.2026
SSPX LAITY GET INTO ACTIONTRADS. IT’S TIME TO START MOVING. FILE PETITIONS, USE THE COLOURED GRAPHICS.YOU HAVE A WHOLE NEW BODY OF KNOWLEDGE WHICH SUPPORTS TRADITION. USE it.https//gloria.tv/post/HtkxbbqXWrpJ2pAw7RRfmN9C3
The provided text details an open call to action by Lionel Andrades specifically targeting the laity of the Society of Saint Pius X (SSPX). He urges them to deploy specific visual tools to resist what he characterizes as an impending wave of canonical penalties from Church leadership. [1, 2, 3]
The "Lionel Andrades Diagrams" Strategy
· Visual Polemics: Andrades instructs lay people to use his colored graphics and diagrams to directly challenge Church authorities. [1, 2]
· Targeted Doctrines: The graphics are meant to show "irrationality" regarding Vatican II, the …More
AI on Google cites the Lionel Andrades rational interpretation of Vatican Council II in harmony with Tradition ; Appeal to Trump to ask Pope Leo to be honest and non schismatic
AI on Google ( under the Il Messaggerro link) cites in detail the Lionel Andrades rational interpretation of Vatican Council II in harmony with Tradition based upon his reports on X and Gloria TV.
He states that when LG 16 is invisible the traditionalists, sedevacantists and the Vatican hierarchy are united on doctrine.
But with Vatican Council II irrational there is division in the Catholic Church. He appeals to President Trump to ask Pope Leo XIV and the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops to interpret Vatican Council II only rationally, honestly, traditionally and non schismatically.
LIONEL ANDRADES
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02.04.2026 CARD.FERNANDEZ REALLY WANTS THE SSPX, SBC, F.I TO BE IN SCHISM OR BE EXCOMMUNICATED : WITH VATICAN COUNCIL II IRRATIONAL HE MAKES TRADITION OBSOLETE CARD.FERNANDEZ REALLY WANTS THE SSPX, SBC, F.I …
Lionel Andrades claims Cardinal Víctor Manuel Fernández forces traditionalists into excommunication using a flawed Vatican II interpretation. He …More
LE CONCILE VATICAN II N'EST PLUS UN ALLIÉ DE LA GAUCHE POLITIQUE. MATTEO SALVINI DOIT EN PRENDRE NOTE.
12.08.2026
LE CONCILE VATICAN II N'EST PLUS UN ALLIÉ DE LA GAUCHE POLITIQUE. MATTEO SALVINI DOIT EN PRENDRE NOTE.
Les libéraux et la gauche vont perdre l'Église comme alliée. L'IA, sur Google et « X », confirment qu'il existe deux interprétations du Concile Vatican II : l'une rationnelle, l'autre irrationnelle. Le pape Léon XIII est irrationnel.
Selon l'interprétation rationnelle, le pape Léon XIII et l'Église orthodoxe deviennent traditionalistes, puisque le Concile Vatican II est traditionaliste et non plus libéral.
Avec l'interprétation rationnelle, l'œcuménisme, la collégialité, la liberté religieuse, l'absence de mission ecclésiocentrique et d'évangélisation, la nouvelle ecclésiologie, la nouvelle théologie, etc., ne sont plus des sujets de débat. Le Concile soutient la foi et la morale traditionnelles, ainsi que l'ancienne théologie du salut. L'ecclésiologie exclusiviste du passé n'est pas contredite par les cas invisibles de LG 16. L'Église revient à l'ecclésiologie des États …More
C'est malheureusement beaucoup moins clair que ce qu'en dit Lionel.
IL CONCILIO VATICANO II NON È PIÙ UN ALLEATO DELLA SINISTRA POLITICA, MATTEO SALVINI DEVE NOTARLO
12.08.2026
IL CONCILIO VATICANO II NON È PIÙ UN ALLEATO DELLA SINISTRA POLITICA, MATTEO SALVINI DEVE NOTARLO
I liberali e la sinistra perderanno la Chiesa come alleata.
L'intelligenza artificiale, Google e 'X' confermano che esistono due interpretazioni del Concilio Vaticano II. Una è razionale e l'altra irrazionale.
Papa Leone è irrazionale.
Con la versione razionale, Papa Leone e la Chiesa mainline, diventano tradizionali, poiché il Concilio Vaticano II è tradizionalista e non più liberale.
Con l'interpretazione razionale, ecumenismo, collegialità, libertà religiosa, mancanza di missione ed evangelizzazione ecclesiocentriche, la nuova ecclesiologia, la nuova teologia ecc., non sono più un problema. Il Concilio sostiene la fede e la morale tradizionali con la vecchia teologia della salvezza. La passata ecclesiologia esclusivista non è contraddetta da casi invisibili di LG 16. La Chiesa ritorna all'ecclesiologia dello Stato Pontificio in Europa e a Quas Primas.
Papa Leone dovrà …More
VATICAN COUNCIL II IS NO MORE AN ALLY OF THE POLITICAL-LEFT MATTEO SALVINI MUST NOTE
12.08.2026
VATICAN COUNCIL II IS NO MORE AN ALLY OF THE POLITICAL-LEFT MATTEO SALVINI MUST NOTE
The liberals and the Left are going to lose the Church as ally.AI, on Google and ‘X’ confirm that there are two interpretations of Vatican Council II. One is rational and the other is irrational. Pope Leo is irrational. With the rational version, Pope Leo and the mainline Church becomes traditional since Vatican Council II is traditional and no more liberal.
With the rational interpretation, ecumenism, collegiality, religious liberty, the lack of ecclesiocentric mission and evangelization, the new ecclesiology, new theology etc, are no more an issue. The Council supports traditional faith and morals with the old salvation-theology. The past exclusivist ecclesiology is not contradicted by invisible cases of LG 16. The Church returns to the ecclesiology of the Papal States in Europe – and to Quas Primas.
Pope Leo will have to align himself with the conservative political parties in Italy …More
AI AGREES THERE ARE TWO INTERPRETATIONS OF VATICAN COUNCIL II : THE SSPX CAN INTERPRET VATICAN COUNCIL II LIKE LIONEL ANDRADES AND THE CONCLUSION WOULD SUPPORT TRADITION
11.08.2026
AI AGREES THERE ARE TWO INTERPRETATIONS OF VATICAN COUNCIL II : THE SSPX CAN INTERPRET VATICAN COUNCIL II LIKE LIONEL ANDRADES AND THE CONCLUSION WOULD SUPPORT TRADITION
The SSPX can affirm Vatican Council II, they can accept it and interpret it rationally, not like Lionel Andrades only, but like any one, and then have a conclusion which supports Tradition. So they would have put aside the requirement to accept only Vatican Council II.
Extracts from a Conversation with AI on ' X 'today.
x.com/i/grok?conversation=2087171584301674960
Lionel:
If we assume possibilities of being saved in LG 8, 14 and 16 are seen, visible, known exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, then this is irrational and dishonest in every case every where. This is not an opinion of Lionel Andrades. This is a fact which emerges when the text of the Council is read.
Lionel: Yes you and Pope Leo and Cardinal Fernandez have chosen from this binary. For you'll LG 8, 14, 16 refer to visible examples …More
AI ON GOOGLE AND X SEE A CONTINUATION AND COHERENCE IN THE LIONEL ANDRADES INTERPRETATION OF VATICAN COUNCIL II
11.08.2026
AI ON GOOGLE AND X SEE A CONTINUATION AND COHERENCE IN THE LIONEL ANDRADES INTERPRETATION OF VATICAN COUNCIL II
AI on X and Google, when asked, see a continuation and coherence in the Lionel Andrades interpretation of Vatican Council II.
AI on Google and X indicate Lionel Andrades reconciles the SSPX with Vatican Council II.
When Vatican Council II is dogmatic (AG 7/EENS), ecclesiocentric (AG 7/EENS) and traditional then religious liberty, collegiality, ecumenism etc are traditional and non controversial.
Liberal and conservative Catholics are obliged to interpret the Council only rationally. This is the only honest and moral choice they have.
Vatican Council II irrational (LG 16 visible) is schismatic and so there is a new theology. Quas Primas and extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) are made obsolete.
In the SSPX Declaration of Faith there is no mention of Vatican Council II, rational, with LG 16 invisible. This interpretation of the Council is aligned with all the Creeds, …More
IL MESSAGGERO REPORTS ON SSPX ORDINATION DO NOT SAY THAT VATICAN COUNCIL II IS DOGMATIC AND ECCLESIOCENTRIC : CARD. FERNANDEZ IS IN SCHISM
10.08.2026
IL MESSAGGERO REPORTS ON SSPX ORDINATION DO NOT SAY THAT VATICAN COUNCIL II IS DOGMATIC AND ECCLESIOCENTRIC : CARD. FERNANDEZ IS IN SCHISM
The Il Messaggerro reports on the SSPX ordination of bishops, has not mentioned that the SSPX rejects the irrational interpretation of Vatican Council II and the rational interpretation of the Council would support them and place Cardinal Fernandez in public schism with the past Magisterium over the centuries.1
The reports do not state that according to the Lionel Andrades interpretation of Vatican Council II Cardinal Fernandez could have chosen the rational interpretation of the Council and Catechism and other magisterial documents. This would mean the Council and Catechism would be aligned with Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre and the traditionalists and Fr. Leonard Feeney of Boston and the St. Benedict Center- and not Rahner, Ratzinger, Congar and Balthazar and the popes from Paul VI to Leo XIV.
So the reports were one sided and biased. They …More
10.08.2026
The Vatican cannot continue to interpret Vatican Council II irrationally and then excommunicate Archbishop Vigano and the SSPX bishops. The text is constant and does not depend upon the pope. (Conversation with AI on X)
x.com/i/grok?conversation=2086789529143255510
So a judge can clarify that reports on Vatican Council II in the media must not project possibilities as concrete exceptions for the dogma EENS of the 16th century Magisterium.)
From AI on X .
x.com/i/grok?conversation=2085348729851121968
Lionel, your latest statement asserts three things: (1) the current pope, cardinals and episcopal conferences interpret Vatican II irrationally and thereby place themselves in schism with the magisterium and missionaries of the sixteenth century on the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus; (2) they do not admit this schism but politically present themselves as apostolic and magisterial; and (3) Cardinal Ratzinger (later Benedict XVI) deliberately remained silent on an interpretation of Ad Gentes 7 that would have made LG 16 a non-exception, thereby keeping Vatican II traditional, and that he therefore failed to demand the lifting of the excommunications of Archbishop Lefebvre and Fr Leonard Feeney.
Lionel :
He(Lionel) claims that the official interpretation produces schism with the sixteenth-century magisterium remains your theological judgment. (Lionel: Why my judgement ? Are you saying the ecclesiology today is the same as at …More
Il Messaggero interpreted Vatican Council II irrationally: there is no denial from Roberto Napoletano, Franca Giansoldati and the Editorial Dept.
August 8,2026
Il Messaggero interpreted Vatican Council II irrationally: there is no denial from Roberto Napoletano, Franca Giansoldati and the Editorial Dept.
There is no acknowledgement of the error. An injustice has been done to the SSPX and traditionalists. The Council interpreted rationally supports Tradition and not liberalism.
Over the year there has also been no denial from the Vatican Department of Communications and the Holy See Press Office.
Pope Leo seems to agree that LG 8, 14, 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II refer to only hypothetical and theoretical cases. So they cannot be objective exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) of the Council of Florence 1442 and neither for the exclusivist ecclesiology of the Roman Missal at the Latin Mass.
The Council is dogmatic (AG 7/EENS) and ecclesiocentric (AG 7/ EENS) and would be aligned with the EENS of Fr. Davide Pagliarani Superior General of the SSPX or, Brother Andre Marie micm, Prior at the …More
Cardinal Ratzinger did not tell Lefebvre and Feeney that Vatican Council II supports them instead of his friends Rahner and Kung
07.08.2026
Extracts from AI on X at Lionel Andrades' channel.
06.08.2026 Vatican Council II supports the traditionalists, the newspapers must note: apology due to the SSPX
x.com/i/grok?conversation=2085348729851121968
Lionel : The Church cannot interpret the Council irrationally and not apostolically,This makes it a minority view, It is also schism
(Lionel : It is Andrades' discovery but not Andrades' reasoning It is the reasoning of the Church over the centuries which did not confuse what is implicit as being explicit as does Pope Leo who is not magisterial and apstolic on this issue until he interpret de fide teachings rationally, irrespective of the political fall out.
Lionel : It is not a theological opinion. It is an objective fact recognisable by anyone , even a non Christian
Lionel. Interpreting LG 8, 14, 16 etc as being objective cases in 2026 and so practical exceptions for the dogma exrtra ecclesiam nulla salus is not magisterial.
That LG 8, 14,16 etc refer to physically …More
AI on x agrees that LG 8, 14 16 are invisible cases and newspaper reports do not imply that they are invisible cases in Vatican Council II
CONVERSATION WITH AI ON X ON LIONEL ANDRADES' CHANNEL.
PLEASE SEE THE ORIGINAL.
THIS IS A ROUGH COPY.
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Vatican II Rational Reading Supports SSPX
Lionel Leslie Andrades
Vatican Council II supports the traditionalists, the newspapers must note: apology due to the SSPX
06.08.2026 Vatican Council II supports the traditionalists, the newspapers must note: apology due to the SSPX Yesterday I posted an e-mail to the editor of the daily Il Messaggero, Rome, telling him that the media reports on Vatican Council II are irrational and not rational, dishonest and not honest, political and non apostolic and non magisterial. They are schismatic. I mentioned that when Vatican Council II is interpreted rationally it is dogmatic, ecclesiocentric and traditional and this was not told to Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre and Fr. Leonard Feeney of Boston. They were allowed to remain excommunicated even though the Council was ecclesiocentric. Pope Benedict, Pope Francis and Pope Leo have not disclosed this …More
Vatican Council II supports the traditionalists, the newspapers must note: apology due to the SSPX
06.08.2026
Vatican Council II supports the traditionalists, the newspapers must note: apology due to the SSPX
Yesterday I posted an e-mail to the editor of the daily Il Messaggero, Rome, telling him that the media reports on Vatican Council II are irrational and not rational, dishonest and not honest, political and non apostolic and non magisterial. They are schismatic.
I mentioned that when Vatican Council II is interpreted rationally it is dogmatic, ecclesiocentric and traditional and this was not told to Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre and Fr. Leonard Feeney of Boston. They were allowed to remain excommunicated even though the Council was ecclesiocentric.
Pope Benedict, Pope Francis and Pope Leo have not disclosed this important information to the SSPX, SBC, F.I and Ecclesia Dei communities.
We now know that Vatican Council II is aligned with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) and LG 8, 14, 16, UR 3, NA 2, Gs 22 in Vatican Council II are not practical exceptions for EENS. LG …More
IL MESSAGGERO REPORTS ON VATICAN COUNCIL II ARE IRRATIONAL, POLITICAL AND DISHONEST. THERE IS A RATIONAL AND HONEST ALTERNATIVE
05.08.2026
IL MESSAGGERO REPORTS ON VATICAN COUNCIL II ARE IRRATIONAL, POLITICAL AND DISHONEST. THERE IS A RATIONAL AND HONEST ALTERNATIVE
SUBJECT:
This is an e-mail to be posted to the editor of the daily Il Messaggero, Rome
To:
Mr.Roberto Napoletano,
Editor, Il Messaggero, Rome.
Dear Mr.Napoletano,
There is an error in Il Messaggero’s interpretation of Vatican Council II affecting Catholics at large and especially the SSPX.
NOTE:
The Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Ministry of Interior and Quirinale and the rest of the Italian Government interprets Vatican Council II irrationally and unethically too.
Dear Roberto Napoletano,
I want to bring your attention to a general mistake in the reporting on Vatican Council II in your newspaper. The same mistake was made by Gianfranca Soldati, Vaticanista, and a representative of the Vatican, at a conference on Vatican Council II held by this newspaper.
I have listed the specifics, reports on Vatican Council II, published by this newspaper and other …More
SSPX CHAPEL IN ROME :. NETWORKING IS NEEDED, MEDIA HAS TO BE MONITORED, PRESS RELEASES ISSUED
04.08.2026
On Sunday at 12 p.m I passed by the SSPX chapel in Rome. Holy Mass had ended and the priests too had left.The door was closed.A few people were still outside chatting.
What a waste of time.
They should be networking.
There was a lady there in a wheel chair. She was there at the Latin Mass.There are so many things she and her friends could do.
1. When the daily Repubblica, Il Messaggero and Avvenire interpret Vatican Council II with LG 8, 14, 16, UR 3,NA 2, GS 22 etc, as being physically visible cases and so Vatican Council II becomes a schismatic , she must correct them. She could ask for an apology or correction.
2. She could ask the bishop who welcomes SSPX priests into the mainline Church, if LG 8, 14, 26 etc refer to physically visible or invisible cases in 2026. If he says that they refer to invisible cases, then he implies that Vatican Council II says outside the Catholic Church there is no salvation ( AG 7 which is cited in CCC 846 and there are no practical exceptions …More
Bishops in India, Pakistan and Bangladesh say outside the Catholic Church there is no salvation according to Vatican Council II.
04.08.2026
Bishops in India, Pakistan and Bangladesh say outside the Catholic Church there is no salvation according to Vatican Council II.
When the Apostle Thomas when he came to un-divided India, he preached that outside Jesus and the Catholic Church, Jesus Mystical Body there was no salvation.
Bishops in India have to now support the St.benedict center, the Society of St. Pius X and the Ecclesia Dei communities with a traditional Vatican Council II.
Vatican Council II is dogmatic and ecclesiocentric in Kerala, Goa and Karachi.
Liberal may not want to say outside the Church there is no salvation but they are restricted by the text of Vatican Council II which can only be interpreted rationally.
‘The red is not an exception for the blue’ in the memes/ graphics. This is a new way of reading Vatican Council II.
Bishops Conferences in Asia are now united on doctrine and theology when Vatican Council II is rational, traditional and interpreted honestly by all.
With AG 7 aligned with EENS …More
پاکستان چ کارڈنل تے بشپ کہندے نیں کہ کیتھولک چرچ توں باہر ویٹیکن کونسل II دے مطابق کوئی نجات نئیں اے جہنوں عقلی طور تے تشریح کیتا گیا اے۔
پاکستان چ کارڈنل تے بشپ کہندے نیں کہ کیتھولک چرچ توں باہر ویٹیکن کونسل II دے مطابق کوئی نجات نئیں اے جہنوں عقلی طور تے تشریح کیتا گیا اے۔
انٹرنیٹ تے رپورٹاں توں انکار نئیں
پاکستان چ کارڈنل تے بشپ کہہ رئے نیں کہ کیتھولک چرچ توں باہر کوئی نجات نئیں اے، ویٹیکن کونسل II دے مطابق صرف عقلی طور تے تشریح کیتی گئی اے۔ ایڈ جینٹس 7 فلورنس کونسل 1442 دے ایکسٹرا ایکلیسیم نولا سالس (EENS) تے کیتھولک چرچ 845-846 دے کیٹیکیزم دے نال منسلک اے، جد کہ ویٹیکن کونسل II وچ LG 8، 14، 16، UR 3، NA 2، Gs 22 وغیرہ EENSAG، CCC 7 لئی عملی استثنا نئیں ہن۔ 845-846 تے لاطینی ماس وچ رومن میسل دی خصوصی کلیسیائی سائنس۔
کیتھولک چرچ دا موازنہ سینٹ تھامس ایکویناس نے اک اجہے جہاز نال کیتا اے جہدے وچ سب نوں نجات لئی داخل ہون دی لوڑ اے، نوح دے کشتی دی طرح۔ ایہہ پری تے پوسٹ کنسیلیر دی تعلیم اے۔
ایہ تعلیم پاکستان وچ کیٹیکٹیکل سنٹراں تے تعلیمی اداریاں وچ پڑھائی جائے گی۔ ایہ صدیاں توں اٹلی دے جیسویٹ تے ریڈیمپٹورسٹس دے تعلیمی اداریاں وچ وی پڑھایا جاندا سی۔
کارڈنل جوزف کوٹس اتے کراچی، پاکستان دے آرچبشپ آرچبشپ بینی ٹراواس نے گلوریا …More
DES CARDINAL ET DES ÉVÊQUES AU PAKISTAN AFFIRMENT QU'IL N'Y A PAS DE SALUT HORS DE L'ÉGLISE CATHOLIQUE, SELON LE CONCILE VATICAN II INTERPRÉTÉ DE MANIÈRE RATIONNELLE.
03.08.2025
DES CARDINAL ET DES ÉVÊQUES AU PAKISTAN AFFIRMENT QU'IL N'Y A PAS DE SALUT HORS DE L'ÉGLISE CATHOLIQUE, SELON LE CONCILE VATICAN II INTERPRÉTÉ DE MANIÈRE RATIONNELLE.
Aucun démenti des informations circulant sur Internet.
Des cardinaux et des évêques au Pakistan affirment qu'il n'y a pas de salut hors de l'Église catholique, selon le Concile Vatican II interprété uniquement de manière rationnelle. Ad Gentes 7 est conforme à l'exhortation apostolique « extra ecclesiam nulla salus » (EENS) du Concile de Florence de 1442 et aux articles 845-846 du Catéchisme de l'Église catholique. En revanche, les articles 8, 14 et 16 de LG, 3 d'UR, 2 d'NA et 2 de Gs 22, etc., du Concile Vatican II, ne constituent pas des exceptions pratiques à Ad Gentes 7, à l'EENS, aux articles 845-846 du Catéchisme de l'Église catholique et à l'ecclésiologie exclusiviste du Missel romain lors de la messe en latin.
Saint Thomas d'Aquin compare l'Église catholique à un navire où tous doivent embarquer pour le …More